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					<description><![CDATA[<p>This is an updated version of the Dave Butcher photo diary of a ski mountaineering course and 3 day tour from Argentiere&#160;to Trient in 1992 with International Mountain Guide Peter Cliff. The original web page just had a few photographs [&#8230;]</p>
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<p>This is an updated version of the Dave Butcher photo diary of a ski mountaineering course and 3 day tour from Argentiere&nbsp;to Trient in 1992 with International Mountain Guide Peter Cliff. The original web page just had a few photographs of darkroom prints but this enlarged post has 36 scans from the original film negatives in much better quality to better illustrate the tour.</p>



<p>In 1992 I booked on a ski mountaineering course with Glenmore Lodge in the Cairngorms. Unfortunately, It was cancelled due to lack of snow so, having built up to doing such a course I looked elsewhere for one. </p>



<p>I booked with Peter Cliff, who had written a book on ski mountaineering, that I&#8217;d read cover to cover, so I thought he would be a good person to go with as I didn&#8217;t know of anyone else. It was a 6 day course based in Argentiere near Chamonix in France, ending with a 3 day tour from Argentiere to Trient in Switzerland.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Sunday 3rd May 1992</strong></h3>



<p>I drove with my wife Jan to Harpenden in Hertfordshire on Saturday afternoon to stay with Jan&#8217;s parents.  This gave us a short drive to London Heathrow Airport Sunday morning. I was at the airport before 6am as I knew it would take longer to check in my rucksack and ski bag with all the metal equipment they contained. </p>



<p>I was fortunate that the flights didn&#8217;t cost me anything as I had vouchers from British Airways to buy the tickets. This was because of appalling customer service at Heathrow Terminal 5 in December 1990 after my flight from New York to Manchester was diverted there because of bad weather. The only slight disadvantage was that there was no voucher seat available from Manchester for the outward journey, only for the homeward one. Hence we travelled down to stay with my in-laws in Hertfordshire.</p>



<p>The British Airways flight left at 8.30am and arrived at Geneva Airport at 11am. I then caught the 12.10pm train along Lake Geneva to Martigny station where I met Kieran and Sheila who were also on the Peter Cliff course. From their rucksacks and ski bags which had BA luggage labels I could tell they were probably on a similar journey to me. After introductions we caught the mountain railway to Argentiere, it left at 1.55pm and arrived at Argentiere at 4pm after a beautiful but slow journey through the mountains.</p>



<p>We walked from the station to the Hotel Le Dahu, checked in and then found our rooms &#8211; I shared a twin room with Kieran. Then we went down to the bar for a beer.</p>



<p>Late afternoon Peter Cliff came into the bar and introduced himself, as well as Tony Brindle his assistant for the trip.</p>



<p>We were still 2 short but we went upstairs for kit checks in our rooms and just emptied our rucksacks on the bed. Peter did a bit of weeding out of surplus clothing but not much.</p>



<p>Then we all had dinner together downstairs after which the final 2 arrived at 9pm and introduced themselves &#8211; Ed and Peter.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Our Guides</strong></h3>



<p>Peter Cliff an International Mountain Guide based in Argentiere, Tony Brindle (aspirant/trainee mountain guide and management consultant at the YMCA Lakeside Centre)</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Our Group</strong></h3>



<p>Kieran (a London Underground maintenance engineer), Ed Grimshaw (a management consultant living in Coniston), Peter (a forester), Sheila (a GP from London) and me, Dave Butcher (Technical Manager for Ilford Photo).</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Weather and Snow Conditions</strong></h3>



<p>The weather was hot and sunny making for difficult snow conditions &#8211; lots of heavy &#8216;porridge&#8217; snow away from pisted areas.</p>



<p>We spent the first 3 days being taught how to ski difficult snow away from the pistes, which we all did quite badly!</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Monday 4th May 1992</strong></h3>



<p>We walked from the hotel to meet Peter Cliff at the Lognan telepherique (the main lift from Argentiere) for 10am. We put skis on at the top and then caught the Bochard chairlift to the top and had a few ski runs down to find our ski legs and for Peter to check our abilities on pisted snow. Then at 11.30am we switched and did a few off-piste runs but it was now hot and the soft deep wet snow was tricky to ski. All of us were having trouble with the snow conditions. We skied down a gully full of moguls and stopped for lunch at a restaurant. I discovered that hot dog and orange juice isn&#8217;t a typical lunch for ski mountaineering!</p>



<p>After lunch we used the Bochard lift and the piste to work on our technique. I had to put more weight forward to press into the tops of my boots and push the ski tips down. One of Peter&#8217;s pet phrases was describing someone as having ski posture like a sack of potatoes if you were too round shouldered!</p>



<p>I learnt a lot about ski technique from Peter during the 6 days, he explained things in a way that I could understand. By the end of the course I felt that I was a much better skier, both on piste and off-piste.</p>



<p>We ended the day with drinks in the hotel bar with Peter Cliff.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Tuesday 5th May 1992</strong></h3>



<p>On the second day we went to the top of the Grand Montets lift, it was really cold in the shadows but warm in the sun. </p>



<p>We put skis on outside the lift station. It was steep and narrow to reach the glacier below which was covered in icy moguls and still in shadow. We all started skiing but Peter Cliff stopped us part way down and told us how badly we were all skiing and that if we fell on the next section we would go down a crevasse and die. Not the best way to put our minds at rest considering that this course was the first time skiing off-piste for most of us. Though this had the desired effect and made us ski more slowly and carefully. We skied around and under the cable car over the top of the glacier through loads of avalanche debris to the top of the Bochard piste, the easy bit compared to what had gone before.</p>



<p>At the Bochard piste Peter gave us an ultimatum, keep up with him as we ski down the piste or leave the course. It was a pretty easy wide red run and we started down with Peter in the lead then Ed, Peter (forester), me, Kieran and Sheila. We stopped half-way down and waited for everyone to join up. Peter stayed very quiet and we just continued down. At the bottom Peter Cliff stopped suddenly to look back up the slope and was almost run over by the 3 of us as we were following him so closely!</p>



<p>There was no sign of Kieran or Sheila. Kieran arrived a minute or two later &#8211; he had fallen after being cut-up by a snowboarder so his excuse was accepted. Kieran looked very stylish on pistes with his feet looking as if they were bolted together. Unfortunately, this style meant he was not very stable off-piste or in poor snow where a wider stance would have helped.</p>



<p>Sheila eventually appeared but was not going well, her arthritic hips were preventing her from skiing well in the difficult conditions. Peter decided that she would be unable to do the tour and told her she would have to stay behind. Sheila had joined the course knowing this was a possibility and was disappointed but not surprised. </p>



<p>The rest of us, without Sheila, went to the top of the Grand Montets again but this time we headed straight down for the Argentiere Glacier. The sun had softened the surface and it was much easier than the ice we skied earlier. We came down through the icefall and crevasses to reach the Lognan lifts. The run was several kilometres long and it was exciting skiing for all of us off-piste newbies.</p>



<p>We stopped for lunch and waited for Sheila to join us as arranged. We wanted to repeat our last run over the glacier but instead we all went up the Bochard lift, traversed away from the piste and practised using avalanche transceivers.</p>



<p>Peter then left us to finish the day however we wanted so we skied around the Bochard piste a couple of times before catching the lift to the valley. The snow was really soft and heavy now.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Wednesday 6th May 1992</strong></h3>



<p>The original plan was for us to ski the Vallee Blanche which Sheila couldn&#8217;t do so we asked Peter to change to something which we could all do. We caught the bus to Chamonix and walked up the hill to the Brevent lift station where Peter had planned for us to do a 1 day tour from the top station. Unfortunately, when we arrived from Argentiere it was shut for maintenance. </p>



<p>We walked back down the hill and caught the bus to the Flegere cable car where Peter had a run in with the lift staff. Mountain Guides expect to travel free as they&#8217;re bringing trade to the lifts with their clients but for some reason they didn&#8217;t accept Peter as our guide. Eventually he did get his free lift pass and we all followed him through after we&#8217;d paid. We stopped at the mid-station for a tea break.</p>



<p>After the break we all went up to l&#8217;Index for a short tour back to Brevent. Just as we were about to start a series of avalanches came down the slopes under which we should have skied. We would have been down there if we hadn&#8217;t stopped for a tea break! The plan changed again and Peter gave us a lecture and demo on testing snow and then we practised digging snow pits ourselves to test the snow condition. Then we spent the rest of the day skiing around Flegere as preparation for the 3 day tour coming up.</p>



<p>The snow became very wet and heavy so we stopped and decided to go down. Peter Cliff looked quite pale and ill and he said he was unsure if he would be able to do the tour, we&#8217;d have to wait and see.</p>



<p>Peter turned up later and did another gear check, including harness adjustment. The group gear was then shared out. I took a snow shovel and a spare ski pole.</p>



<p>The following 3 day ski tour was my first ski mountaineering trip in the Alps. Previously I had skied 3 Munro&#8217;s as day trips and done a few weeks in total of downhill skiing, mostly in Scotland and 1 week in Austria at Neustift and Stubai. I also did quite a few sessions skiing on dry ski slopes at Rossendale and Sheffield. I would describe myself as a steady skier but definitely not stylish!</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Ski Tour <strong>Day 1, Thursday 7th May 1992</strong></h3>



<p>The day started with all 7 of us taking the Grands Montets lift (3250 m) from Argentiere. At the top Peter Cliff decided to have another kit check and told me I was carrying too much. He pulled out my waterproofs and all my hill food as Peter told us he doesn&#8217;t stop for food breaks (&#8220;you can eat when you reach the hut&#8221;) and I gave it all to Sheila who had come to see us off. He did the same for the other 3 too so Sheila had quite an armful of stuff to carry down.</p>



<p>From here we skied down the Glacier des Rognans across recent avalanche debris keeping above a rocky outcrop to the Argentiere Glacier. We stopped in the middle, well spaced out in case of unseen crevasses, to put skins on. </p>



<p>Then we skied up the glacier past the Glacier du Milieu, Refuge d&#8217;Argentiere (2771 m) and the Glacier des Amethysts all on our left. Finally, we turned off the Glacier d&#8217;Argentiere to ski up the Glacier du Tour Noirs to practice using skins on steep ground. The slopes were covered in about 5 cm of fresh snow on packed ice so on the steep slopes our skis had a tendency to slide away if you didn&#8217;t get the edges in properly. </p>



<p>All was going well until near the top of the steepest section Kieran slipped slowly all the way down the slope with Peter shouting down for him to &#8220;use your poles to stop&#8221; then when he was flat on the slope Peter called down &#8220;use your ski edges&#8221;, that didn&#8217;t work so Peter said &#8220;dig your elbows into the snow&#8221;. Kieran did that and skinned his elbows badly but didn&#8217;t stop until the bottom of the slope. Peter shouted down for him to come back up but he refused and waved at the nearby Argentiere hut that he&#8217;d never been to before and said I&#8217;ll go straight to the hut. Peter quite rightly wasn&#8217;t amused and skied down, tied him onto a short rope and effectively dragged him back up to join the rest of us. </p>



<p>We headed up further and the snow was softer so easier to ski. Then we took skins off and headed down  towards the Refuge d&#8217;Argentiere. There was a bad section just above and behind the hut which we crossed singly 100 metres apart in case the slope avalanched. We checked in at the hut and then drank lots of tea to rehydrate before going outside to hang up our climbing skins to dry in the sunshine and admire the view from the terrace with a beer in hand, until clouds rolled in mid-afternoon. The 2 toilets were a bit primitive, 2 steel cabins each with holes cut in the floor. </p>



<p>Supper was chicken casserole, with red wine and bread. Peter then volunteered us to help do the washing up which we did and the guardian then rewarded us with some nightcap drinks. </p>



<p>We had a room to ourselves with room for 10 but there were just 6 of us so we spread out a bit when we turned in at about 9pm. Snorers near the window!</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" width="1920" height="960" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094309-19920507-view-from-grand-montet.jpg" alt="Grand Montets view to Aiguille d'Argentiere and Glacier d'Argent" class="wp-image-47851"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Grand Montets view with skier on Glacier des Rognons with Argentiere Glacier and Aiguille d&#8217;Argentiere beyond </figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img decoding="async" width="1920" height="960" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094310-19920507-preparing-to-leave-grands-montets.jpg" alt="Preparing to leave Grands Montets" class="wp-image-47852"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Preparing to start 3 day ski tour at Grands Montets above Argentiere</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img decoding="async" width="1920" height="960" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094313-19920507-skier-on-argentiere-glacier.jpg" alt="Skier on Argentiere Glacier" class="wp-image-47853"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Skier crossing Argentiere Glacier</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1368" height="1920" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094314-19920507-peter-cliff-putting-skins-on.jpg" alt="Putting skins on skis on Argentiere Glacier, Peter Cliff in middle" class="wp-image-47854"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Putting skins on skis on Argentiere Glacier, Peter Cliff in middle</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1368" height="1920" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094320-19920507-tony-brindle-aspirant-mountain-guide.jpg" alt="Tony Brindle, aspirant mountain guide 1992" class="wp-image-47855"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Tony Brindle, aspirant mountain guide 1992</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1368" height="1920" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094323-19920507-les-courtes-my-kastle-skis.jpg" alt="Les Courtes from Argentiere Glacier" class="wp-image-47856"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Les Courtes from Argentiere Glacier with my skis in foreground</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094326-199205-les-courtes-les-droites-from-argentiere-refuge.jpg" alt="Agentiere Refuge view to Les Courtes (left) and Les Droites (right)" class="wp-image-47857"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Agentiere Refuge view to Les Courtes (left) and Les Droites (right)</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094329-199205-tony-brindle-argentiere-refuge.jpg" alt="Argentiere Refuge Tony Brindle and view southeast" class="wp-image-47858"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Argentiere Refuge Tony Brindle and view southeast</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094331-199205-view-southeast-from-argentiere-refuge.jpg" alt="Argentiere Refuge view southeast" class="wp-image-47859"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Argentiere Refuge view southeast</figcaption></figure>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Ski Tour <strong>Day 2, Friday 8th May 1992</strong></h3>



<p>Some climbers in our dormitory were up early and made lots of noise sorting their gear until Peter told them to do it outside but we couldn&#8217;t settle so we all got up a few minutes later at 5am, much earlier than was needed. Breakfast was muesli, bread, marmalade and tea.</p>



<p>Once we left the Refuge d&#8217;Argentiere we were on the Ski Haute Route for the entire day. This is the ski mountaineering route between Argentiere and Zermatt in Switzerland which usually takes 6 or 7 days to complete. I completed this in 1993 and recently updated my photo diary <a href="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/ski-mountaineering-chamonix-zermatt-haute-route-photos/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">&#8211; click here to view.</a></p>



<p>We left the hut at 6am, it was still twilight, and walked down the slope carrying our skis about 100m as it was very rutted with knee-deep &#8216;post-holes&#8217; where people had walked up yesterday afternoon in the soft wet snow. Then we waited for Peter Cliff to catch up and tell us what to do next. He told us we would be skiing downhill so we put skis on to reach the foot of the Glacier du Chardonnet. </p>



<p>We headed down a steep icy slope, traversed around some ice banks and a bit further down to the Glacier d&#8217;Argentiere where we stopped to put on skins and harscheisen (ski crampons). Then we started up the Glacier du Chardonnet and made good progress up the lower steep section until Kieran slipped again and went a few hundred meters down the slope. He was having trouble getting the edges of his skis and harscheisen to grip. &nbsp;Peter and Tony immediately went down to help him back up again while we waited.</p>



<p>Meanwhile, a group of 3 Americans walked past carrying their skis on their sacs, unlike everyone else that we saw. A few minutes later we heard shouting from above, one of the group had fallen down a crevasse and was saved from falling far by his rucsac. Peter made a point of explaining how that probably wouldn&#8217;t have happened if they had been on skis to spread the weight.</p>



<p>By now Peter thought we were behind schedule, making for challenging conditions later on, so he hurried us along as we skinned up the glacier. At 10am we reached the Col du Chardonnet (3323 m) and changed our skis from uphill to downhill mode and removed the climbing skins from the underside. While doing this I failed to notice that Tony had put one of his skis partly over the top of one of my skis and as I lifted it up his ski shot off down the Chardonnet Glacier looking as if it wouldn&#8217;t stop until Argentiere High Street (no ski brakes on touring skis)! Just when we thought all was lost the ski hit a divot, shot in the air and landed tip first in the snow. Tony was off like a shot and soon covered the 400 metres to be back with his ski after 10 minutes or so. We hoped Peter Cliff didn&#8217;t see the incident!</p>



<p>While all this was going on Peter Cliff was setting up a belay rope for us using the permanent belay point installed at the top of the col. One by one we clipped onto the rope and abseiled come side-slipped down the east side from France into Switzerland, with Peter at the top of the rope of course. Forester Peter went down first followed by Ed who found himself upside down at the top of the steepest bit &#8211; he said he hadn&#8217;t realised that the rope was still being paid out and as the rope he was holding tightly went slack he went with it head first instead of sliding his skis. We didn&#8217;t seem to be having a good day! Kieran followed me then Tony followed him. Finally, Peter took the rope in, packed it in his rucksack and skied down without any rope, showing us how it should be done!</p>



<p>From the foot of the col we traversed around the Glacier de Saleina on softish snow and stopped at the foot of the slope to a col for lunch. At least, everyone else stopped for lunch but Peter Cliff had taken all my hill food out of my rucksack before we started so I just watched everyone else eating!</p>



<p>Then it was time to put skins on the skis and ski up to the foot of the col, crossed the bergschrund where we took our skis off. From here we walked up carrying the skis up the last steep section to the Fenetre de Saleina (3261 m). Peter wisely carried his and Kieran&#8217;s skis to avoid any mishaps.</p>



<p> At the top we removed the skins from our skis, put them on and skied around the bowl of the Plateau du Trient to Col d&#8217;Orny. We stopped to put our skins on the skis once again and skied up the last short bit to the Cabane du Trient (3170 m) to arrive at 1pm. The terrace was a fantastic viewpoint over the Aiguilles Dorées and the Aiguille du Tour. </p>



<p>We went inside and drank lots of tea until we rehydrated then we sat on the terrace and watched the clouds drifting in from the Glacier du Trient and other groups arriving below us on the col. </p>



<p>We were all very tired but Peter kindly volunteered us to unload a helicopter cargo net of hut goodies that was dropped as we sat on the terrace drinking beers. Several trips later carrying cases and crates of wine, beer and food it was done and we returned to our beers. </p>



<p>We had clear blue sky and it was warm all day. The hut guardian was very friendly and looked after us very well although I was less than impressed with the cheese and tomato fondue that we all had for dinner. It looked like the chef had cut himself while making it with all the red bits of tomato floating in amongst the yellow gloop. An allergy to dairy products and general hatred of fondue didn&#8217;t help! Peter seemed to know the guardian and his wife well and, for helping with the delivery he generously plied us with a few drinks before we turned in at 9.30pm.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094335-19920508-col-du-chardonnet-from-chardonnet-glacier.jpg" alt="Col de Chardonnet from Chardonnet Glacier" class="wp-image-47861"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Col de Chardonnet from Chardonnet Glacier. Ski Haute Route Day 1</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094401-19920508-aiguille-verte-from-col-du-chardonnet.jpg" alt="Aiguille Vertes from Col du Chardonnet" class="wp-image-47862"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Aiguille Vertes from Col du Chardonnet. Ski Haute Route day 1</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1368" height="1920" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094405-19920508-col-du-chardonnet-swiss-side.jpg" alt="Col du Chardonnet from the Swiss side. Ski Haute Route day 1" class="wp-image-47863"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Col du Chardonnet from the Swiss side on Ski Haute Route day 1</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094407-19920508-glacier-de-saleina-below-col-du-chardonnet.jpg" alt="Glacier de Saleina below Col du Chardonnet" class="wp-image-47864"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Glacier de Saleina between Col du Chardonnet and Fenetre de Saleina. Ski Haute Route day 1</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="960" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094412-19920508-aiguille-dargentiere-from-glacier-de-saleina.jpg" alt="Aiguille d'Argentiere from Swiss side of Col du Chardonnet" class="wp-image-47866"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Aiguille d&#8217;Argentiere from Swiss side of Col du Chardonnet. Ski Haute Route day 1</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094411-19920508-glacier-de-saleina-view-southeast.jpg" alt="Glacier de Saleina view southeast" class="wp-image-47865"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Glacier de Saleina view southeast between Col du Chardonnet and Fenetre de Saleina. Ski Haute Route day 1</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1920" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094413-19920508-break-below-fenetre-de-saleina.jpg" alt="Short Break Below Fenetre de Saleina, ski haute route day 1" class="wp-image-47867"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Short Break Below Fenetre de Saleina, after traverse from Col du Chardonnet. Ski Haute Route day 1</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="960" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094414-19920508-below-fenetre-de-saleina-view-east-to-grand-combin.jpg" alt="View East from below Fenetre de Saleina to Grand Combin, ski haute route day 1" class="wp-image-47868"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">View East from below Fenetre de Saleina to Grand Combin, after traverse from Col du Chardonnet. Ski Haute Route day 1</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094416-19920508-fenetre-de-saleina-approach.jpg" alt="Approach to Fenetre de Saleina" class="wp-image-47869"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Approach to Fenetre de Saleina after traverse from Col du Chardonnet. Ski Haute Route day 1</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094418-19920508-aiguille-de-la-neuve-from-fenetre-de-saleina.jpg" alt="Aiguille de la Neuve from Fenetre de Saleina" class="wp-image-47870"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Aiguille de la Neuve from Fenetre de Saleina, between Col du Chardonnet and Trient Refuge. Ski Haute Route day 1</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="960" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094423-19920508-aiguille-doree-plateau-du-trient.jpg" alt="Aiguilles Dorees and Plateau du Trient" class="wp-image-47871"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Aiguilles Dorees and Plateau du Trient between Fenetre de Saleina and Trient Refuge. Ski Haute Route day 1</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="960" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094424-19920508-pointe-dorny-cabane-du-trient-from-plateau-du-trient.jpg" alt="Pointe d'Orny and Cabane du Trient from Plateau du Trient" class="wp-image-47872"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Pointe d&#8217;Orny and Cabane du Trient from Plateau du Trient. Ski Haute Route day 1</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="960" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094426-19920508-pointe-dorny-cabane-du-trient.jpg" alt="Pointe d'Orny and Cabane du Trient" class="wp-image-47873"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Pointe d&#8217;Orny and Cabane du Trient from Plateau du Trient. Note the supply helicopter left of the hut. Ski Haute Route day 1.</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094431-19920508-cabane-du-trient.jpg" alt="Cabane du Trient Terrace. Ski Haute Route day 1" class="wp-image-47874"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Cabane du Trient Terrace. Ski Haute Route day 1</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094436-19920508-aiguille-doree-plateau-du-trient-from-cabane-du-trient.jpg" alt="Aiguilles Dorees and Plateau du Trient from Cabane du Trient" class="wp-image-47875"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Aiguilles Dorees and Plateau du Trient from Cabane du Trient. Ski Haute Route day 1</figcaption></figure>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Ski Tour <strong>Day 3, Saturday 9th May 1992</strong></h3>



<p>Breakfast was just after 6pm. We put our skis on just an hour later and skied down to the Col d&#8217;Orny and then around the edge of the plateau towards the Aiguille du Tour. It was mostly downhill but on the few slightly uphill sections we were able to keep moving by stepping onto the uphill ski pointing slightly downhill. This kept us moving and was a neat trick I often used after this.</p>



<p>Eventually we stopped, put skins on our skis and raised the heel bale for uphill skiing. Then we roped up for the first time on skis and started uphill around Plateau du Trient crevasses and ice cliffs below the Aiguille du Tour. We had 2 ropes of 3, I was with Tony and Ed, as we all headed around the foot of the Aiguille du Tour (3544 m) to the unnamed Col between Aiguille du Pissoir (3440 m) and Le Pissoir (3319m) south of Col du Pissoir.</p>



<p>We side-slipped the steep top section by zig-zagging to and fro. As the slope eased we skied down on good snow with tall cliffs on our left and the Col du Midi (3232m) ahead of us before veering off to the right below the Aiguille du Midi on the Glacier des Grands. As we skied lower the snow changed to breakable crust and caught most of us out, I fell once here. Peter stopped us and talked to us about continually probing the snow as we skied so that we could adjust our style to suit the conditions. </p>



<p>We continued across the Glacier des Grands to just south of the Croix de Beron (Croix de Bron on french maps) where we regrouped and continued the long steep traverse on the Glacier de Beron, it was very hot now.&nbsp;We all made it down to the easier slopes below even though the snow was very soft now. We passed a few skiers coming up sweating buckets in the heat.</p>



<p>Then at about 2100m it was into a very unpleasant narrow gorge with steep sides filled with recent avalanche debris for several hundred metres. We all found it very difficult to ski through this. Kieran fell and slid into Peter Cliff knocking him over as he was just below him, they slid about 15m together. As they both stood up Kieran did it again and once more Peter was knocked over. Peter was furious with Kieran. It was tricky underfoot but falling over twice in quick succession, each time taking out your guide, is not a good look! </p>



<p>Peter and Kieran walked the rest of the way while the rest of us attempted to ski around and over the large blocks of avalanche ice debris. Eventually we had to stop and take our skis off too so Peter told us to walk down to Trient on our own.&nbsp;We were just a few hundred metres from the Trient river.</p>



<p>I took off a layer and put on more suncream ready for the hot walk out in the sunshine. We crossed the Trient Glacier torrent and followed the track down past the Chalet du Glacier (closed 1583m) and on the last few miles down through the woods to the road which was covered in avalanche debris in 3 places. Trient village (1279 m) was reached at 11.30am and was the end our trip which we celebrated with a well earned beer in the cafe. Peter Cliff joined us several minutes later and arranged transport back to Argentiere. We were all surprisingly quiet in the minibus taxi back to the hotel in Argentiere.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="960" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094501-19920509-cabane-du-trient-bedroom-window-morning-view.jpg" alt="Cabane du Trient Bedroom Morning View West May 1992" class="wp-image-47876"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Cabane du Trient Bedroom Morning View West May 1992</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094502-19920509-col-du-pissoir.jpg" alt="Col du Pissoir view East" class="wp-image-47877"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Col after Aiguille du Pissoir view East, just north of Aiguille du Tour after leaving Cabane du Trient</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094503-19920509-glacier-des-grands-descent.jpg" alt="Glacier des Grands Descent from Col du Pissoir" class="wp-image-47878"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Glacier des Grands descent from Col near Aiguille du Pissoir to west just north of Aiguille du Tour</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094509-19920509-glacier-des-grands-view-back-at-route.jpg" alt="Glacier des Grands Descent Route from Below" class="wp-image-47879"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Our Glacier des Grands descent route from below</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="960" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094511-19920509-view-back-at-descent-route-over-avalanche-debris.jpg" alt="Descent Route from Glacier des Grands" class="wp-image-47880"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">View back to descent from Glacier des Grands that we skied down until this bottom section when we strapped skis to packs and walked out. Croix des Berons in background.</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1368" height="1920" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094514-19920509-glacier-du-trient.jpg" alt="Glacier du Trient and Le Trient River" class="wp-image-47881"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Glacier du Trient and Le Trient River melt water, where we crossed it at end of ski tour, looking up at Trient Glacier.</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="960" height="1920" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094515-19920509-descent-gorge-and-croix-des-beron-nr-trient.jpg" alt="The Gorge Descent Route from Glacier des Grands with Croix des Beron in background" class="wp-image-47882"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">The Gorge descent route full of avalanche debris with Croix des Beron in background. We took skis off near the bottom and strapped them to our sacks. </figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1791" height="1791" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094521-19920509-walk-out-to-trient.jpg" alt="Walking out to Trient Village" class="wp-image-47883"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Walking out to Trient village to finish our 3 day ski tour with skis strapped to our rucksacks</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094522-19920509-trient-village.jpg" alt="Trient Village 9th May 1992" class="wp-image-47884"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Trient Village 9th May 1992 at the end of our ski tour from Argentiere in France to Switzerland</figcaption></figure>



<p>We returned to the Argentiere Hotel le Dahu where we were put in newly refurbished rooms with ensuite shower and toilet, luxury! We cleaned up and changed into walking clothes. I met up with Ed and Peter (forester) and we went for a walk up the path alongside the Glacier d&#8217;Argentiere. We stopped at about the 1700m mark, took some photos and returned to the hotel.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1368" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094528-19920510-lower-argentiere-glacier.jpg" alt="Lower Argentiere Glacier above Argentiere Village" class="wp-image-47891"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">After return from ski tour we walked from Argentiere village up to lower part of Argentiere Glacier</figcaption></figure>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1920" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-peter-cliff-094527-19920510-above-argentiere-glacier-ed-peter.jpg" alt="Above Argentiere Glacier with Ed and Peter" class="wp-image-47890"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">Ed (left) and forester Peter (right) above snout of Argentiere Glacier, near Argentiere village</figcaption></figure>



<p>We had dinner in the hotel then went to a couple of other bars in Argentiere. On returning to the hotel late evening there was now a wedding reception in the hotel and we were all invited to join in! Everyone was very friendly, the drinks were free for the rest of the evening. I talked with Peter Cliff and Ed for a lot of the time, Peter was like a different person laughing and joking, very different from this morning when Kieran took him out twice. I eventually went to bed at 1.30am a little the worse for wear. At breakfast I discovered that Ed and Peter Cliff eventually turned in at 4.30am!</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Sunday 10th May 1992</strong></h3>



<p>After breakfast, I caught the train to Martigny and then to Geneva Airport. I flew back to Manchester Airport with British Airways where my wife Jan picked me up and drove me home to the Peak District.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Clothing</strong></h3>



<p>Patagonia Capilene Lightweight long-sleeved T-shirt</p>



<p>North Cape zip polo shirt</p>



<p>Buffalo windshirt</p>



<p>Rohan Superstriders breeches adapted by my wife to come down 8 inches below my knees</p>



<p>Mountain Equipment fleece jacket</p>



<p>Berghaus Yeti knee-length alpine gaiters glued to my boots with a rubber rand under the sole </p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Equipment</h3>



<p>Nikon FE 35mm camera + Ilford FP4 film</p>



<p>Kastle Tour Randonee skis, collapsible poles and Harscheisen (ski crampons)</p>



<p>Salewa Messner step in scissor crampons</p>



<p>Dynafit Tour Lite ski mountaineering boots with knee length Yeti Gaiters attached</p>



<p>Pomoco ski climbing skins</p>



<p>Mountain Technology 50cm ice axe</p>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-full"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" width="1920" height="1280" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/ski-tour-kit-1992-trient-P1010233.jpg" alt="The equipment that I used for the 3 day ski tour with Peter Cliff" class="wp-image-47886"/><figcaption class="wp-element-caption">The equipment that I used for the 3 day ski tour with Peter Cliff</figcaption></figure>



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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Our fifth day in Zell am See was spent skiing on the main Schmitten area above the town. Still lots of fresh snow but a bit chopped up from all the skiers. Top lifts were closed again because of the [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our fifth day in Zell am See was spent skiing on the main Schmitten area above the town. Still lots of fresh snow but a bit chopped up from all the skiers.</p>
<div id="attachment_33926" style="width: 634px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33926" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33926" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180127_160423-624x360.jpg" alt="" width="624" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33926" class="wp-caption-text">Schmitten trees</p></div>
<p>Top lifts were closed again because of the strong winds so we skied down a black run to switch to the other side of the mountain.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33911 alignnone" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180127_113222-268x360.jpg" alt="" width="268" height="360" /></p>
<p>Quite a few moguls on lots of the slopes.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-33914" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180127_113437-780x360.jpg" alt="" width="780" height="360" /></p>
<p>The day brightened later on giving bigger views to the more distant mountains.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-33913" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180127_112557-528x360.jpg" alt="" width="528" height="360" /></p>
<p>A few good shots on my Mamiya 7 camera.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-33929" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180127_113522-772x360.jpg" alt="" width="772" height="360" /></p>
<p>Our sixth and last day was spent walking rather than skiing.</p>
<div id="attachment_33925" style="width: 803px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33925" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33925" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180121_101644-793x360.jpg" alt="" width="793" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33925" class="wp-caption-text">Zell am See from Thumersbach</p></div>
<p>My bad back was painful so I thought a walk would be better for it.</p>
<div id="attachment_33928" style="width: 822px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33928" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33928" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180121_101801-812x360.jpg" alt="" width="812" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33928" class="wp-caption-text">View across lake from Zell am See</p></div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We decided to walk around the lake, which was about 8.5 miles.</p>
<div id="attachment_33924" style="width: 987px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33924" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33924" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180121_102054-977x360.jpg" alt="" width="977" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33924" class="wp-caption-text">Zell am See sunset</p></div>
<p>I took photos with my Mamiya 7 camera on 4 of the 6 days, exposing all 8 rolls of Ilford 120 film (10 shots to a roll), 4 x Ilford Delta 400 rated at 320 ISO, and Ilford FP4+. Mostly the shots were handheld but I did use my small Gitzo tripod for the shots in Zell at dusk.</p>
<div id="attachment_33922" style="width: 650px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33922" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33922" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180127_113624-640x360.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33922" class="wp-caption-text">Last Zell am See apres ski</p></div>
<p>I would have taken more film but we were flying from Manchester and they refused my written request, made several weeks in advance, for a hand search of my film. However, I put the film in a Domke lead-lined bag and this went through the x-ray scanner with my hand luggage. They pulled it to one side after the scan, as the lead blocks all x-rays, and then did a hand search with swabs for banned substances. I got the all clear and breathed a big sigh of relief! No x-rays on my films.</p>
<p>Despite what airports and Ilford say I have seen x-ray damage on my FP4 negatives after just 3 passes through hand luggage scanners. With Delta 400 being almost twice as sensitive to light and x-rays as FP4+, damage was much more likely to happen.</p>
<p>On the return, Salzburg airport did a hand search as soon as we requested it, as they had done a couple of years earlier.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2018 21:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>It was snowing when we woke up and it didn&#8217;t stop all day. Lots of fresh powder snow on the mountains. There was also a strong wind of up to gale force higher up which closed the top lifts all [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was snowing when we woke up and it didn&#8217;t stop all day. Lots of fresh powder snow on the mountains. There was also a strong wind of up to gale force higher up which closed the top lifts all day.</p>
<p>Lots of deep snow on a firm base made for some great skiing. Not many people stayed skiing after the wild weather mid-morning. We switched across from the Panorama area to the Sonnkogelbahn lift which we shared with just a handful of other skiers. More sheltered skiing too. Overall we had a great day.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t carry my Mamiya 7 camera today but hope to tomorrow as it&#8217;s a better forecast. All photos in this post were from my mobile phone.</p>
<div id="attachment_33894" style="width: 695px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33894" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33894" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180117_215753-685x360.jpg" alt="" width="685" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33894" class="wp-caption-text">Zell am See at night</p></div>
<div id="attachment_33893" style="width: 597px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33893" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33893" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180117_215841-587x360.jpg" alt="" width="587" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33893" class="wp-caption-text">Zell am See at night</p></div>
<div id="attachment_33896" style="width: 608px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33896" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33896" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180117_215705-598x360.jpg" alt="" width="598" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33896" class="wp-caption-text">Sonnkogel snowy trees</p></div>
<div id="attachment_33897" style="width: 1175px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33897" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33897" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180117_215517-1165x360.jpg" alt="" width="1165" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33897" class="wp-caption-text">Packed piste!</p></div>
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<div id="attachment_33895" style="width: 1001px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33895" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33895" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180117_215317-991x360.jpg" alt="" width="991" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33895" class="wp-caption-text">Misty view</p></div>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2018 22:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Today was a dull day so I left my Mamiya 7 camera in the hotel room. Snow conditions were mostly good with just a few icy patches. Here are a few phone photos to give you a flavour of the [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today was a dull day so I left my Mamiya 7 camera in the hotel room. Snow conditions were mostly good with just a few icy patches.</p>
<p>Here are a few phone photos to give you a flavour of the day.</p>
<div id="attachment_33878" style="width: 654px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33878" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33878" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180116_232035-644x360.jpg" alt="" width="644" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33878" class="wp-caption-text">Schmitten View</p></div>
<div id="attachment_33877" style="width: 739px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33877" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33877" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180116_232208-729x360.jpg" alt="" width="729" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33877" class="wp-caption-text">Schmitten View</p></div>
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<div id="attachment_33882" style="width: 786px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33882" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33882" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180116_232258-776x360.jpg" alt="" width="776" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33882" class="wp-caption-text">Schmitten View to Saalbach</p></div>
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<div id="attachment_33876" style="width: 522px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33876" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33876" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180116_232418-512x360.jpg" alt="" width="512" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33876" class="wp-caption-text">Gin House Apres Ski bar</p></div>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 21:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Another sunny day in Austria! The forecast for the rest of the week isn&#8217;t great so we decided to visit the neighbouring Kaprun ski area in the sunshine. It was about 30 minutes on the bus. The main peak is [&#8230;]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another sunny day in Austria! The forecast for the rest of the week isn&#8217;t great so we decided to visit the neighbouring Kaprun ski area in the sunshine. It was about 30 minutes on the bus.</p>
<p>The main peak is the Kitzsteinhorn and the highest lift goes high enough to see the view on the other side, but not to the summit.</p>
<p>The top lift was the only one with a queue, good snow and not busy. Clouds cleared by midday to leave blue skies for the afternoon.</p>
<p>Good views through the mountains and to the close-by lake at Zell am See.</p>
<p>I ran off 12 shots on my Mamiya 7 camera. That&#8217;s 3 rolls in total for the trip. Snow forecast tomorrow so will wait to see what we can do.</p>
<div id="attachment_33865" style="width: 889px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33865" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33865" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180115_204832-879x360.jpg" alt="" width="879" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33865" class="wp-caption-text">Kitzsteinhorn view to Zell am See</p></div>
<div id="attachment_33863" style="width: 608px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33863" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33863" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180115_203950-598x360.jpg" alt="" width="598" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33863" class="wp-caption-text">Kitzsteinhorn view from the top</p></div>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-33866" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180115_204703-637x360.jpg" alt="" width="637" height="360" /> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-33867" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180115_204734-881x360.jpg" alt="" width="881" height="360" /> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-33869" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180115_204323-829x360.jpg" alt="" width="829" height="360" /> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-33870" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180115_204150-789x360.jpg" alt="" width="789" height="360" /> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-33871" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180115_204055-694x360.jpg" alt="" width="694" height="360" /></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 01:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Photo ski trip to Zell am See in Austria. Day 1.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan and I are in Zell am See in Austria for the skiing and photography.</p>
<p>Today was our first day of skiing and the weather was great, blue sky above the lowest lifts but with a cloud inversion over the lake and valley below &#8211; all day. Snow was mostly good with just a few icy patches lower down. I have my Mamiya 7 camera with me, loaded with Ilford 400 Delta 120 film, and took 18 shots during the day. That&#8217;s almost 2 rolls of film with just 10 shots to a roll.</p>
<p>I brought just 8 rolls in total so I&#8217;m being selective in what I take. We flew from Manchester for a change but they refused my written request several weeks ago for a hand search of my film, hand searches are against their policy. I would have brought at least double the films if they had agreed to a hand search. I put the film in a Domke lead-lined bag. It went through the x-ray scanner but they pulled it to one side for a hand inspection as the bag worked, they couldn&#8217;t see the film inside it using x-rays. They pulled the films out of the bag, took a swab, tested it in the machine that checks for drugs and explosives. The films were given the all clear. So they ended up doing the hand search on my films that they refused to do and the lead-lined bag did it&#8217;s job.</p>
<p>Here are a few images taken on my Motorola Moto-X phone to give you an idea of what it was like.</p>
<div id="attachment_33846" style="width: 659px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33846" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33846" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180114_212041-649x360.jpg" alt="" width="649" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33846" class="wp-caption-text">Zell am See lake late afternoon</p></div>
<div id="attachment_33847" style="width: 972px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33847" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33847" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180114_212243-962x360.jpg" alt="" width="962" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33847" class="wp-caption-text">Above the clouds</p></div>
<div id="attachment_33848" style="width: 703px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33848" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33848" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180114_212348-693x360.jpg" alt="" width="693" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33848" class="wp-caption-text">Sun trying to break through</p></div>
<div id="attachment_33849" style="width: 584px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33849" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33849" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180114_212453-574x360.jpg" alt="" width="574" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33849" class="wp-caption-text">Skiing in the clouds</p></div>
<div id="attachment_33850" style="width: 680px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33850" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33850" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180114_213349-670x360.jpg" alt="" width="670" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33850" class="wp-caption-text">Clouds in the valley</p></div>
<div id="attachment_33851" style="width: 889px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33851" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33851" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180114_213454-879x360.jpg" alt="" width="879" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33851" class="wp-caption-text">Zell am See Schmitten above the clouds</p></div>
<div id="attachment_33855" style="width: 490px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33855" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33855" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-am-see-IMG_20180114_103348676_HDR-480x360.jpg" alt="" width="480" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33855" class="wp-caption-text">Jan caught me in action</p></div>
<div id="attachment_33852" style="width: 253px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-33852" class="size-thumbnail wp-image-33852" src="https://www.davebutcher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/zell-IMG_20180114_213812-243x360.jpg" alt="" width="243" height="360" /><p id="caption-attachment-33852" class="wp-caption-text">Our first Apres Ski for this trip</p></div>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2017 03:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some more photos of Winter Park ski area in Colorado. All taken on my Motorola Moto-X phone. I also skied with my Mamiya 7 camera on 3 days so several of the shots were also taken on Ilford film and will be available as proper darkroom prints!</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1470" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184207-1024x421.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184207" width="625" height="257" /><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1463" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184940-1024x704.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184940" width="625" height="430" /> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1464" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184651-1024x439.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184651" width="625" height="268" /> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1465" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184821-1024x479.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184821" width="625" height="292" /> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1466" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_185034-1024x914.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_185034" width="625" height="558" /> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1467" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184427-1024x570.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184427" width="625" height="348" /> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1468" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184343-1024x555.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184343" width="625" height="339" /> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1471" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184255-1024x393.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184255" width="625" height="240" /> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1472" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_183927-1024x428.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_183927" width="625" height="261" /><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1469" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184113-1024x397.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170220_184113" width="625" height="242" /></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2017 00:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are staying with good friends Rob and Annie in Colorado. Their house is in Boulder but they recently bought an apartment in Winter Park, a ski area. So far we&#8217;ve skied a couple of days and go back for more soon. Here&#8217;s a few photos.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1457" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170212_174649-1024x576.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170212_174649" width="625" height="352" /> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1458" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170212_174551-1024x576.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170212_174551" width="625" height="352" /> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1459" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170212_174449-1024x576.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170212_174449" width="625" height="352" /> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1460" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170212_174306-1024x576.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170212_174306" width="625" height="352" /><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-1456" style="font-size: 1rem;" src="http://www.darkroomdave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170212_174751-1024x451.jpg" alt="usa-colorado-winter-park-IMG_20170212_174751" width="625" height="275" /></p>
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